Finally, some new casting calls and one serious spoiler for episode 7 “Hit The Floor”
[CLAUDINE] 30s-40s. A beautiful, kind and loving figure who knows a lot about Sookie, she appears to Sookie in a golden vision. However, their utopia is abruptly dismantled when Claudine issues Sookie a mysterious warning. Possible Recurring.
[BIG BOBBY] 30s-40s. Cruel “white trash dummy” with a large belly.
[FRANK] A suspicious, dangerous, Louisiana backwoods hillbilly, wearing overalls and speaking with a major accent.
[DR. SEKULER] Female, in her early 50s, this doctor gives Tara some dire news at the hospital.
[HOSPITAL ADMINISTRATOR] Female, in her 30s, patronizing and hushed, she brings paperwork to Jason and she’s a bit hurt when Lafayette lashes out at her.
Facepalm…save me from the fucking fairies. Seriously, NO.
I was hoping the fairies wouldn’t come in either CE. I’m worried for season 3, AB’s bringing in way too much shit.
Ditto
Ditto again! AB seems to be appeasing the Bookies! Bad move, AB.
omg
faeries…I was hoping for more politics instead.
Umh… I have a feeling….
Me too ZZ. I think if AB continues following the books the show will start being compared to Scrubs. Stupid but….! I was hoping AB would start putting the emphasis on the political angle too. Not only would it be relevant it would be like reliving the rights movements of the 60′s but in a more interesting and fun way, which most viewers weren’t around for. I think he and the writers are missing out on a good thing do to the ease of following the books. I wonder if they realize that most viewers who fell in love with season 1 and then picked up the books, didn’t enjoy them.
At what point will the actors start becoming disenchanted by the minimum exposure on TB? In season 3 they’ll be getting even less.
Aemac,
I respect your opinion regarding the books-being silly. However, I disagree. There are several aspects of the books (i.e. sexual abuse, inequality, death) that are just NOT silly and should never be assumed to be. I’ll admit, I don’t find Charlaine Harris’s writing to be particularly impressive comparitively speaking. Still, it is her “universe” and story that sparked True Blood in the first place. And, in terms of “sililiness” how do you classify the “maened orgies” or “exorsism hoax”? Both the book and the series have their moments but I don’t find the series any less “silly.” In fact, with its emphasis on sex and violence, I think that alot of the heavy material is lost.
Anyways, I also disagree with your remark about “most people who fell in love with S1 not enjoying the books.” What evidence do you base this on? True Blood was the reason I picked up the books and I much prefer the books direction. Perhaps, I’m one of the exceptions.
The funny thing about the tv series vs the books is that, IMO, you really can’t compare them. TB has only had 2 seasons…CH has written 9 books. It wasn’t until the 2nd/3rd books that I really became interested. So, I guess, in that respect you may be right. If the reader stops at book 1 or 2 there is a greater chance that they receive the TV series better.
In the end its all a matter of opinion. Though, I think it’s just as ignorant for you to claim your belief as it would be for me to say: by reading the books, MOST people will change thier opinon. It changed my opinion. I know in my experience most others would say the same. Still, our perceptions are biased by the fact that we tend to rally with others of like-mind. So, in reality, I think that the line is probably drawn 50/50.
as i see you are wondering in another forum what political angle we are referring to, i hoped that with the introduction of the AVL we could see more politics about how vampires will organize themselves and fight for their legal rights in a society that is not really open to them, as a the logical evolution to the methaphore started that compares them to other minority groups. I would like to see Bill working for the AVL instead of fully doing for the Queen. I believe there is an Edict, but I hope to see a fight going on between the AVL, the kingships, and human society more than battles wiith lemon juice guns.
And Holby and whoever else is talking crap about us in other sites. This pretends to be a friendly site to discuss all points of views, so no need to get angry or get too pushy. If this site is so scary as you say, and you have such a bad time stopping by, maybe you have to learn to invest your time better. We put a lot of effort running it, and yes, I won’t hide nor I wish to, that the ladies who run it are all Bill lovers. But don’t forget that we are doing a good service by bringing you all this news so you can discuss about.
OK, thanks for reminding me about the lemon juice squirt guns… because really, those need not be forgotten.
ZZ, I believe that you may have mistaken me for someone else. I never said anything about scary. I also don’t think I have talked “crap.” Additionally, my comments on this site were not in reference to Bill or Eric in any way because I do respect the fact that those lines are what they are, my contention about the non-acceptance actually referred to the book vs. TB series animosity, which is too bad. Perhaps you should take the opportunity to post your opinion on “the other site” that you are clearly trolling.
ZZ- I don’t see TB as a “political” drama. Since you’ll likely view my comments at the other site, I’ll gladly say that I never imagined AB to go in that direction. His overdone side plots with Tara and the Maened are the reason for my feeling that way. However, in my haste, I have expressed my thoughts on this being a rather crafty way of averting the plot lines of the book–with an emphasis on Bill. I know that I am MORE than biased and I don’t pretend not to be. I preferred the direction that the books provide and I am personally frustrated with the changes AB has made thus far with Bill-Sookie-Eric.
That being said, I think I have been very understanding of TB and those subsequent Bill fans. I myself was one when I watched the first season–before I read the books. If you like True Blood and AB’s vision I respect that. But the comment I replied to over-generalized personal convictions.
I apologize if my feelings on the subject offended you or anyone else–here or at the other forum. However, I can’t promise it won’t happen again. I can only say as much for my form of cathartic release. I can’t help but vent my frustrations to others with similar feelings. Nothing that I said was meant as a personal attack. This is a True Blood site…the other site is not, which is why I choose to post there. Had the issue of “silliness” and/or over generalization not been discussed here I would have never posted.
Seriuosly the fairires? Lemon juice guns?!!! I really didn’t mind reading it… but I surely don’t wanna watch it on tv!!!
But girls, come on, lets not jump to conclusions… we have to keep it together. We trust Alan Ball… We believe in Alan Ball!
Maybe when you get to be a succesful producer, writer, director, and creative genius like Alan Ball, you can write the stories the way you want. True Blood and AB rock!
All we can do is pray all this compressed storyline casting defies our collective fears.
Please AB: Don’t let Season 3 turn into one f*cked-up hot mess!
im not surprised he has brought in fairies.. After ending season 2 with sookie questioning what she is after her hand flash thing. It makes sense 2 try establish sense of that incident last season… Its only a flash back of claudine, and she is only a ‘possible recurring’ so they are not looking 2 far ahead with claudines character.. I dont mind the show incorporates alot of the book plots, as long as theres a good balance of both..
Maybe they are going 2 incorporate more of the books then we thought?
The positive about using the books is that if they use alot of the plots earlier on, then they have freedom 2 take the show in a totally different direction 2 the books by season 5 or 6…Heres hoping it will last that long..Season 3 please hurry!!!
Ugh. What a way to start a morning. I really did not find the whole fairy thing in the books to be compelling in any way. And although it’s obvious AB is going with Sookie being something other than human, I was hoping she’d be finding out about it on her own. The way the books close the fairies up in the sky (or whatever) at the end of the last book, I thought it possible to disregard them completely. Oh well.
Hoping for the best over here.
I believe in AB.
Oh God, not the fairies … The more AB strays from the books, the better the show. This lessens my enthusiasm – a bit – for S3.
Oh Honey, don’t feel alone in this. So many TB lovers don’t want AB to follow those silly ass books and knowing Claudine is coming spoils season 3 for so many of us.
Without those ‘Silly ass books’ there wouldn’t be a show. Have you read them? I have & loved them, found it hard to put them down. This series is amazing both Books & TV.
Yeah, I read them and I knew I’d get a reaction with that. Sorry if I hurt your feelings Truebie, but they weren’t meant to be serious books, they were silly…. so with AB giving us TB as a much more serious show then the books were written he’s gonna have to be careful with the direction he goes. He even admits that all things don’t translate well to TV.
I think TB is just as silly as the books. Look what he did to the character of Jason and Andy. The maenad storyline was beyond silly on the show than it was in the books. The whole finale was silly. The only serious plotline of season 2 was Dallas, but back in Bon Temps? Orgies? Bug-eyed? That was not serious that was laughable.
By saying TB is more serious, I think you may be confusing “dark” with serious. The show is definitely darker (read: more gory) than the books, but I don’t think they are more issue pertinent. Additionally, I did not become interested in reading the books until the end of Season 2. After that very confusing and nebulous end to the maenad, I sought the books thinking there might be a fuller explanation for it. How surprising it was that the story was so completely different. I have read all of the series (I actually read all 9 books in a matter of one week) and, while I agree that CH is not the best writer (I would say the readability is about 5th grade level), the content is not at all silly. Issues of equality, racial (or species) cooperation, tolerance and what it means to be alive are pretty deep issues. Granted, the discussions that I have been involved in online have disregarded the writing STYLE in favor of concentrating on the subtext.
I have enjoyed both TB and the Book series. I do not know that it has to be devisive, but clearly some people do. Ironically, that is the opposite of the message communicated by the spirit of the content!
Im not sure if AB will make the show serious because its not serious its entertainment.
Now come on… I read the books, I started reading them a very long tima ago, before I even new there was going to be a show… and I did enjoy reading them. Easy CE and Aem… they were fun to read; But yes, they were silly… come on, Bubba, really?!!!
I like the books, eventhough I’ve been mad with the writer for quite some time now… I didn’t appreciate Sookie becoming a winny slut, I didn’t enjoyed Bill beeing a doormat, I certainly didn’t like the episode of Eric acting like a lapdong when he was haunted and amnesic (which funny enough is his best moment according to his rabids fan) but I’ve really enjoyed the adventures… and after reading one after the other I just had to know what would happen.
here is no way Alan Ball can pull off the things Charlaine did with the same indulgence she did… I really though the show would be more political too; I’d prefer to see more of the AVL and less of Sophie-Ann, Russel Eddington, Felipe de Castro, etc….
However… as I said before, I believe in Alan Ball! I want to…
OK……………first off…I’ve never read the books and I probably never will. I had never been in,terested in a book series that started in the Young Adult section of book stores, yet once True Blood became a global success, they were moved to the adult section. I must admit the jackets on these books looked like the book was about young adult vampires.
Not hostility~just past experience of others who try to undermine the work done by our moderators. No one likes their integrity questioned which you did in a few words.
Am I the only one excited about this? I do agree some of the fairy stuff was out there, especially in the last book, but I love Claudine. Love the interaction between her & Sookie. I am so excited to see who they cast as her.
I don’t think you are the only one. There’s a bunch of people who really loved Claudia/Claude, the witches, demons, that crazy ass cat ;)
This doesn’t upset me nearly as much as hearing they are doing the amnesia crap would – I really hated that the most.
They’ve introduced Sookie’s power that was not in the books – they’ve led us to her being fae – so that they would bring in something like Claudine to tie that all up or explain it isn’t in itself surprising. They have to have some way of explaining Sookie and her power. I don’t know if there’s any meaning to “possible recurring” as it makes it sound like it may not be a major part of the story. So to bring it in for explanation and let it go – that would work.
That said yea there is reason for concern about how much stuff is bring brought in to S3 – cause for thinking it’s gonna be too diluted. I too want Sookie and the vamps to be the main focus. I believe in AB……..
Why would a TV show based on a series of books actually sticking to the main plot of those books upset you? AB has stated that Eric will lose his memory – which is the main plot of Book 4 – how AB interprets that is anyones guess.
I don’t know how much Charlaine Harris repsects her own work but if I had a series of books and someone turned them into a TV show then proceeded to ignore the plot of the books then I’d be a bit miffed …
If someone paid me a boatload of money for the rights to turn my books into a highly popular tv series, I think that would go a long way at soothing my “miffedness”.
I had never heard of CH, much less her books, before True Blood. Judging from the amount of books she has sold after TB in comparison with before TB, and how well known she is now compared to before, I think she has reason to be happy with the show..as she has stated herself.
So you believe that CH has no artisitic integrity whatsoever? And alongside that – that AB has no respect for CH’s original works but that’s okay because he’s throwing money at her. That’s pretty insulting to Ms. Harris and Mr. Ball….
Huh, I’m not sure I’m reading the same comment as you. Billsbaby’s comment said nothing resembling “CH has no integrity and AB has no respect for CH.” Honestly, how did you leap to that?
For some reason there’s not a reply button under your post so I’ll improvise
Quote Lividity:”Huh, I’m not sure I’m reading the same comment as you. Billsbaby’s comment said nothing resembling “CH has no integrity and AB has no respect for CH.” Honestly, how did you leap to that?”
Shockandawe stated that they didn’t want to have one of the main plots of the books adapted.
I replied in the vein that if I was in the authors position and the main plots were ignored I’d be upset.
Billsbaby replied stating that if /he/she was in the authors position it wouldn’t matter because they’d be rich. That’s where the author in questions artistic integrity comes in.
A TV producer has stated he loved the books but if he ignores major plot points thinking that throwing money at the author makes it all better, that’s where the disrespect comes in. It’s all context and if’s, there was no ‘leaping’. Maybe I took Billsbaby’s comment out of context, maybe he/she took my comment out of context. No disrespect intended to anyone.
Of course, if we get Claudine it could mean well get Claude, too. *le sigh* I loved his character, such an abrasive but beautiful dude :D
… and the Claude/Sookie photo shoot. That could by hysterical actually.
How can the show possibly get any more diluted than season 2 was! The whole maenad crap was so inconsequential – not to mention BORING! Orgies are not supposed to be boring! We need less filler and more killer.
I hope AB does follow the books. While some found them “Silly” I thought they were funny, sexy and had a good contrast of light and dark. Alan Ball loved the books.
But the longer I read at several sites the easier it is to distinguish the differences between the Eric and Bill fans. Eric fans want to go the way of the books for obvious reasons and the Bill fans want Alan to veer away from the books for obvious reasons. Not because the books dont tell a good story and are “Silly” but because Bill is portrayed as less than stellar, and looses the girl based on his own actions,much to the delight of the Viking.
Wow. Someone who says it as it is. How refreshing! I applaud you.
Nicely stated, TBLVR…spot on!
What about those of us who like them both? I read the books and I found them silly. I like the show better because I’m not invested in Sookie. I like the fact that I can get the perspective of the other characters and it’s more of an ensemble. I could care less who “gets the girl.” I have no problem with how Bill is portrayed in the books, because guess what? It’s from Sookie’s POV so I take it all with a grain of salt. And I actually prefer show Eric. You can disagree with some of the comments but the girls here that put this site together do a BRILLIANT job. So, no I don’t think you’re spot on. Or say as it is. I disagree.
Liz, it just boils down to a personal preference. The books are from Sookie’s POV but she didn’t make up the plot. She didn’t (as far as we know) twist any of the dialogue. What I thought was “on point” was her observation that our personal bias was shaping our feelings on the subject of Claudine and/or the rigidity of sticking to the book plot.
Also, I think in some ways–after reading all 9 books–I am more vested in Eric than I am Sookie. I was looking forward to having the alternate POV bc Sookie can get pretty darn annoying sometimes, yea I said it.lol Anyways, I think you can understand where having liked Eric’s portrayal in the books, I wouldn’t be fond of AB’s. I feel like he’s completely altered the dynamics between Eric-Sookie-Bill. And, regretfully, I’m one of those that does mainly watch for them–the vampires–and the love story. I’m a huge sap.
Anyways, I hope that cleared up my statement atleast a little.
Just wondering, what’s the source for this? Without a source, how are we supposed to believe that this is real when the information can’t be found ANYWHERE online??? And yes, I DID look for it elsewhere.
Hey TruebieGoddess: This info was discovered on IMDB, which have been sliding these things out there ahead of everyone all year. (I added source as Aem forgot to add.)
Cool! Thanks!
Actually, I just tried the link, but it didn’t work…
I also checked IMDb.com myself when the link didn’t work… NOTHING there to prove this information to be real.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1484334/ That link is for the episode being talked about. Then I checked IMDbPro. Still nothing. That’s why I’m suspicious of the information.
I too want nothing more than the latest info, but if you’re getting it from the boards, how is that legitimate?
Trying to find Aem for comment.
In defense of the spoiler itself though, it looks like every legitimate casting call we’ve received in the past.
I am just looking forward to more True Blood.
I guess the introduction of fairies was inevitable. Alan seems to want to keep all the supernatural aspect of the books in the show.
I have read all the books and I still love the show better. Just IMO.
I like where Alan has taken us so far. Ok, the Maenad storyline/orgies was overdone, but that is the supernatural for you. He could make the fairy storyline just as, well, long.
But I will keep my faith in Alan B!
It’s good that some of you “believe” in AB, because from my POV, the show is circling the drain. The whole maenad/Mary Ann saga jumped the shark in the shape of a bull. Maybe the worst part is that the show has become repetitive and boring after a fairly promising start in Season 1. Pity.
Aw, that’s too bad you feel that way. I have to agree that the orgies went on way to effing long, but I’m still enjoying the crap out of this show. Personally, I found the bull beautiful – even more so when it turned into a nekkid Sam Merlotte!
There may be times I roll my eyes, but I have yet to find the show boring.
Who knew it was possible for orgies to be soooo boring? Certainly not me! If I ever see what’s his name naked again, I will have to poke my eyes out. And they missed so many opportunities for it to be funny. Too dang bad is all I can say that somebody laid a big fat egg (pun intended) with that story line. Too many more misteps like that and I won’t be watching TB.
I hope that Alan knows where he goes because we are a lot not to be loved the books. Anyway, he cannot satisfy everybody. I read the books but Iprefer the show so I will keep my faith in AB.
Jaysus, look at this explosion of the same old arguments over a unprepossessing spoiler. I don’t understand the patronising peer pressure book fans (and Eric devotees) seem to feel they must exert on TB fans that don’t like either. I respect what you like or what you think is great writing, but I have my own opinions. Don’t try and tell me how I must think (Resistance is futile! Um, whatever). I have read all the books and found them a massive disappointment despite the odd moment of brilliance. I think the fairies are lame. I don’t like Eric in either the show OR the books. Nothing you say is going to change my mind, and as a rampant consumer of all things TB, I am perfectly within my rights to say so. I do however wholeheartedly agree that the show is just as ‘silly’ as the books these days, and Season 2 was a mess. A funny mess, but still a mess. Season 1 was ART.
[Season 1 was ART. ] That’s funny because season 1 followed Dead Until Dark pretty faithfully, with only a few exceptions. One of those exception was changing Sookie’s line from “Like a fungus” which is pretty funny IMO to “I’d prefer cancer” not so funny if you’ve ever had cancer;)
Wait, KC, isn’t that line from season 2?
I agree that season 1 was art. Yes, a lot of it came from the book (which I actually liked the best out of all of them). But there were a LOT of changes: Jessica, Bill killing LongShadow, Magister, Tara, Suntanned Malibu Bill, etc… And those changes have consequences for seasons to come.
Lazy, I think how you feel about the books is how I ended up feeling about the show. I won’t ever try to force my love for Eric on anyone, so need not worry about that. I think that the distinction between you and I is the reason why I will continue to covet the books and you the TV series.
I think the biggest issue is AB claiming to follow the plot of the books. I–and I might be alone here–would much rather know that he does not plan to, rather than hold on to a flicker of hope that he will redeem it in my eyes. I now choose to look at the two as completely different entities. Otherwise, I’d go crazy. I still do some times.
lazyassninja, I totally agree with you, especially that S1 was ART!! I don’t care if it followed the book – it was written much more cleverly and especially the romance between Bill and Sookie – BRILLIANT!! If AB followed the books on some of those scenes, how ineffectual they would have been ie “take your clip out scene’ or the ‘deflowing’ of Sookie – much more better than the books.
IMO GO TRUE BLOOD!!!
ICAM, Lizzie!! Season 1 was ART to me because of Bill and Bill/Sookie! The pilot episode will always be the best episode IMO and some of the scenes from Season 1….such as the “take your clip out” scene *swoon* are the most memorable to me and why I fell in love with Bill Compton and will never change my mind about him! I think the ART of the show is Bill and I’m so glad AB saw in him what Bill fans saw instead of what was…or wasn’t….written for him in the books! His best move was casting Stephen Moyer as Bill and there would be no True Blood for me without Bill! Alan Ball said that if book readers don’t like his show they still have their books. Very well said IMO!
I don’t think anyone is saying that others don’t have the right to like/dislike whatever aspects of the show or the books they want to. No one is trying to convert anyone.
I think book readers who love the story and the characters watch True Blood to see those characters brought to life on the screen. We watch for the same reason as millions of Harry Potter and LOTR readers queued up at cinemas to see those characters on the screen. It’s only natural to want to see something you love expressed in a different medium. And I’m getting really sick of being called names for that.
Book readers have taken alot of flak over the last two years while we’ve been labelled rabid, fanatical and god knows what else – at least some of our grievances are valid, and this IS a television show. It should be open to criticism, and viewed critically. Not swallowed wholesale. I don’t view anything on my TV like that and I’m not about to make an exception here just because it’s Alan Ball and he is A Creative Genius.
I don’t like some of what he’s done. I have also given him credit where I think it’s been due (Godric, Nan, Jason, styling, look and feel etc). But that doesn’t change the fact that there were some big problems with season 2 and a decent proportion of the audience agree with that assessment. It is not only rabid bookies who think this – check out any number of the reviews and blogs that reviewed the last three episodes, many by people who haven’t read a line of the books. They dropped the ball…pardon the pun!
Anyway, about Claudine I’m a little confounded at the surprise – if they’re running with the fae line which has been obvious for a while, of course other aspects of that plotline are going to come into play. Claudine and Niall being the most likely to appear on the show.
Ball is not following the books exactly and I don’t want him to. For the most part, he is heading in the same direction and just changing the route. This is fine, though I’m not happy at all about what’s happened to some of the characters – mainly Sookie, Bill and Eric – in that process.
I liked the books because they were so far fetched, silly and ‘NOT REAL’. They were not a serious read, they were a fun read. And I can see why some people dont want the show to follow the books. The thing I love about the show is that it can take the ‘fun’ of the books and then add other elements on top to make it great television. It would be horrible, lame television if it followed the books in every way. The show needs the books, the books need the show. They are not the same without the other, and I love both..
The writers 4 the show are incredibly lucky to have books they can bounce ideas from, I think this is to the shows advantage and longevity. The writers have a foundation and a canvas every season 2 work from. They can use it, or go their own direction.
I dont mind who sookie ends up with, I dont watch the show just 2 c sookie/bill or sookie/eric. In the books I would like 2 c sookie end up with eric just because the books have more to do with them. If the books concentrated more on bill/sookie (like the show) I would probably be all 4 sookie/bill.
4 the show, I would like 2 c bill/sookie end up 2gether. I have no doubt they will be :)
After this long long day, I can only wish that Sookie ends up with Andy Bellefleur. And I only say Andy because Terry doesn’t deserve all that crazy in this part of his life. I think Andy can deal though ;)
LMAO…good answer Lividity!
I know where this came from..and the info is good…so back off..
RC, I WORK in the media world… I have to RESEARCH and HAVE EVIDENCE to cite when I pass along ANY information I find, so why should I take anything at face value, especially when rumors run rampant on the internet? You can’t believe everything you read/hear in this day and age.
By the way, WHERE did you get the information? Do you have direct contact with Alan Ball or the casting directors? Are you connected to the production to the show, and if so then why not just say you have direct confirmation from someone on the set?
Why the hostility to my requesting a source to verify the information?
I can not reveal my source at the moment, but I have never given bad stuff before..so you can either take my word at it ….
I love Charlaine Harris and her southern vampire mysteries, and I love Alan Ball and what he has done with True Blood. I did not want to read the books at first, because I was reading some other vampire series books, and didn`t want to get involved with another series. But when True Blood came out I started reading them and I am glad I did. They are by far the best I`ve read. In book 4 when Eric loses his memory, it was great, not because of the amnesia so much as what went on because of it. I still cry when I read the ending, I`m not going to write any spoilers but It made me realize that there was a definite bond between Eric and Sookie. I hope this bond develops on the show. I like Bill, of course, and season 1 episodes 1 and 2 are among my favorite episodes when Bill and Sookie meet and start growing close to one another. However it`s the bond that slowly develops and grows stronger between Eric and Sookie in the books that I enjoy the most.
I’m happy to hear we’re going to hear from Claudine! There NEEDS to be an explanation why these vamps either love or hate Sookie. “What ARE you”? Her fairy blood works for me. My only disappointment with the over-done maenad sl was the actress who played Mary Ann would have made the perfect (book version) Claudine. I was a little worried AB might have smushed the two sl’s/characters together. Apparently not!
I LOVE both the books and TB. Love them because they are SO different….with the well defined characters kept in tack. I loved the “cursed” Eric story…it cemented the Bill/Sookie/Eric triangle in the books…so I hope it’s not ignored in the show. (IMO it would make for a great end of season 3…intro to season 4 teaser) And I truly don’t care WHO Sookie ends up with. LOVE both Bill and Eric to pieces (if only). It’s the battle that counts!